Session Start: Sun Jun 17 21:08:24 2001
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*** Topic is '8,4Welcome to the www.zawinulfans.org chatroom. Special today: LIVE ONLINE INTERVIEW WITH VICTOR BAILEY. Special guest also: Mrs. Ingrid Pastorius. In collaboration with www.ciaojazz.com'
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<aprasad> I disagree ldb.
<SteveS3001> idb, can you go in depth about the signing of jazz?
<jurcika14> it must have been a great concert
<Yosuke> played "Amazing grace" last Thursday
<Thomas> maybe anil but i think it is true
<SteveS3001> jaco is amazing, but i don't think he's a very wise person
<ldb> I read that new on Bas Player few months ago, that's all
<SteveS3001> oh, alright
<aprasad> The music industry is a total train wreck when it comes to jazz-related musics. So, in a way it's up to us to be the people who promote this outside of our circles.
<ldb> Geniuses are not wise persons
<SteveS3001> true
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<Marco_Zawinul> victor?
<SteveS3001> hey, victor!
<Thomas> whatever i'm listening to is out of my circle because i'm not a mszuician
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<Yosuke> hello victor 
<ldb> Hi Victor!!!!!
<Marco_Zawinul> Victor, are you?
<Marco_Zawinul> i'm Marco Victor
<ashplyr> Sweet, Hello Mr Bailey!
<_victor_B> I finally got in
<Marco_Zawinul> eheh welcome!! :-)
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<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8OK Now the moderated chat session is started
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Please read the instructions:
<_victor_B> I never di this before so forgive me if I'm slow answering questions
<Marco_Zawinul> ok victor!! :)
<Marco_Zawinul> /me Welcome to the Joe Zawinul Unofficial Italian Fansite (www.zawinulfans.org) chat meeting. Special today: Live online interview with Victor Bailey. Special guest also: Mrs. Ingrid Pastorius. During the Victor Bailey's interview we'll perform a moderated chat session, so only one user at a time can talk (the op-users can talk whenever they want, the users in green color can talk temporarily; when your nickname is in green color you can talk on the channel). Please prepare your question and wait for your turn! If you want to contact me directly double-click on my nickname at the right of the chat window. Also please, if possible, write down your question in advance and then copy & paste it on the chat command line. Thank you! This chat session is managed in collaboration with www.ciaojazz.com, the italian jazz internet magazine.
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<Marco_Zawinul> victor now we start with an online interview, is it OK for you?
<_victor_B> yes
<Marco_Zawinul> ok
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Go Anil, you're the first
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<aprasad> Let's start by finding out what you're currently up to Victor. Also, are you still a member of Zawinul Syndicate?
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<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Thomas please prepare your question, you're the next...
<_victor_B> Yes I'm DEFINITELEY with the syndicate>I won't be on the July tour this year but I'm in the band.I'll be on tour of europe in july eith Bill Evans.I also jusy finished a new cd (HOT) that will be out in September
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<aprasad> what can you tell us about the new cd?
<_victor_B> Yhe new cd has Omar Hakim,Lenny White,Jim Beard,Bennie maupin,Bill Evans,Dean brown.There's lot's of goodies for you bassheads but as usaul I try to give you a cd of some good music and not just a bunch of bass solos!
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<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8OK next is Thomas, go!!
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<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8 Niki please prepare your question, you're the next..
<Thomas> when playing live I mean.
<Marco_Zawinul> please repeat thomas
<_victor_B> Thomas's question is not complete
<Marco_Zawinul> thomas?
<Thomas> alright. I wonder whether Madonna credited you musicians when live on stage.
<Marco_Zawinul> ok
<Marco_Zawinul> you have another question thomas
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<Thomas> Mr. Bailey, ever been in bed with Madonna?
<Marco_Zawinul> ahah thomas!!
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<Marco_Zawinul> victor?
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Yosuke please prepare your questions...
<_victor_B> She introduced the musicians during the concert.2-if you ever play with a woman who pays as much as madonna,DON"T SLEEP WITH HER!
<Marco_Zawinul> eheh victor! :-)
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<Marco_Zawinul> Go Yosuke!
<Yosuke> Hello Victor
<Yosuke> I love your 2nd album "Low Blow" very much
<_victor_B> Just do the gig & make the money.There will be plenty of women around under the circumstances
<Yosuke> How was the "Low Blow" European tour? I heard you were touring with Dennis, Kenny, Jim, Fuze
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Sorry Niki, you're the next..
<_victor_B> Glad you liked lowblow.The tour was phenomenal.With Dim Beard and Dave Fuczinsky it could never be too bad!ennis Chambers,Kenny Garrett,J
<Yosuke> hahaha
<_victor_B> New album will be releaed in september
<Yosuke> great!
<Yosuke> Do you have a plan touringwith Omar Hakim?
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<_victor_B> I really am at my japanese girlfreins house!
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<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8 ok go niko!
<NIKO> Hello Victor: I heard you "live" with your group in Innsbruck about a year back. It was teriffic!!! Is there a Cd of that band released and do you still tour with this band?
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<_victor_B> Omar will do a tour of Europe with me in October
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<Marco_Zawinul> slim-fast :)
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<_victor_B> There isn't a cd with that particular band.Unfortunately everyone's so busy I can't really keep a band like that together,but be sure Whoever I get will be just as good!
<NIKO> I'm a big Alphonse Mouzon fan and heard that you met him at the NAMM show in LA. Is there a chance that you will play/record with him in the near future? He told me that you might be on his Cd "High Noon". What do you think?
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<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8ldb please prepare your questions..
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<Marco_Zawinul> 8,4Welcome Ingrid!! :)
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<_victor_B> I haven't played eith Alphonse but I loved his playing since I was a kid and would love to play with him.Who's a bass player on here?
<Ingrid> Hi ALL!! sorry I am late
<Marco_Zawinul> 8,4We are doing a live interview to Victor, you can talk whenever you want..
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<Ingrid> loll...ok..Hi Victor..
<NIKO> on "High Noon"?
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<_victor_B> I'm used to Pastorius's being late (hahaha)Hi ingrid!!!!!!!!!!!
<Ingrid> Greetings host Marco
<Marco_Zawinul> :)
<Ingrid> lolll...gee thanks..
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8go ldb
<ldb> Hi Victor, I read few months ago on Bass Player, You're gonna sign a new Feneder Jazz. Gonna sound like Your Pensa Suhr?When will be available?I'm a bass player
<_victor_B> Bad joke sorry!
<Ingrid> not really...
<Ingrid> I take pride in it... :o)))
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<Ingrid> sorry...
<Marco_Zawinul> welcome zoom.. :)
<Ingrid> Hello Thomas!!
<Ingrid> and zoom
<_victor_B> We're building a new fendervictor bailey model bass.It's a new improved version of the "victor bailey" sound.It'll be on the market inAugust
<Marco_Zawinul> they cannot talk now Ingrid, it's a moderated session.. :-)
<Ingrid> ok...sorry
<ldb> Are You gonna come to Italy for clinics or gigs (in Milan in particular)
<Ingrid> LOLLLLLLL
<Marco_Zawinul> you can talk in every moment ingrid :)
<_victor_B> I hear felix is BADD!
<Ingrid> yes, thank you... but would love to hear about the new VB version!
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8ashplyr you're the next..
<Ingrid> Yes....Felix is a bad boy... :o)
<Ingrid> great Niko, and you?
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<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Go ashplyr!
<_victor_B> I'll be in Milan with Bill Evans July 6th (actually in Brescia) but it's only for one day so I have no time for clinics etc
<Ingrid> Wow..NICE!!
<Marco_Zawinul> ashplyr?
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8jurcika you're the next..
<ashplyr> & why no website? also could you comment on keyboard bass/I LOVE the fact  that you played live w/ Madonna!
<_victor_B> My website will be online by the end of july.It's almost done (www.victorbailey.com).I love keyboard bass.I've played piano since I was 7 years old so I'm a very capable keyboard bass player,but it'll never replace the BASS for me
<ashplyr> could you comment on Consequently?
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<jurcika14> Will Victor come to Slovenia again? Last concert in Ljubljana was great. Too bad it was such a small place...
<Marco_Zawinul> wait a moment jurcika... :)
<_victor_B> Madonna was very in tune with who she had in the band (me and Omar hakim,and unlike her current tour where they perform to trascks she knew to let us play and do that stanky groove thang we do!
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Seteves you're the next..
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8 go jurcika!
<Ingrid> such a great thing!!!
<jurcika14> Will Victor come to Slovenia again? Last concert in Ljubljana was great. Too bad it was such a small place...
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8 que: you're the next..
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<jurcika14> Do you still have that Pensa Suhr? It sounded really cool in the concert
<Marco_Zawinul> ok one question at a time please... :-)
<_victor_B> I'll answer both questions.The song consequently was on the first demo I ever sent to Joe and wayne.It's the only song on all the WR records that really sounds like me.After so many years of such a strong bass presence with jaco they wanted a more functional role from the bass,but on my tune "Consequently" you see that I'm much more than a Groove guy
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<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8go que!
<que> who will join you with bill evans this summer?
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<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8stupid (sorry) you're the next.. :)
<Ingrid> LOLLLLLLLLL
<que> btw consequently was great,  glad you got that on there
<_victor_B> I don't know when I'll be in Slovenia again.It doesn't matter if the place was small.In the usa these days you can't even play a small place playing serious music.Yes I still have the Pensa Suhr bass.It's a great bass but as jaco said 25 years ago the soung is in your hands not the bass.he was niot being facetious!
<Marco_Zawinul> another question que?
<que> are you upset to miss the zawinul tour?
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8 Sorry, steve is the next, then stupid :)
<_victor_B> Bill's band for the summer is David Gilmore guitar,Scott Kinsey(from Tribal tech) keyboards and a hot new young drummer from NYC marloin browden
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<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8go steve!
<_victor_B> Hey ingrid what's lollllll mean?
<Marco_Zawinul> eheh victor!! :-)
<SteveS3001> Greetings Victor! I'm 14 years old, and I've been playing bass for a little over a year (been playing trumpet for more than 5 years).....do you have any advice for me as a young bassist?
<Marco_Zawinul> ingrid?
<Ingrid> Laughin' OUT Loud
<Ingrid> the estra l-s are when I am almost falling out of my chair
<Marco_Zawinul> eheh ingrid :-) !!
<Ingrid> yes, Marco!
<_victor_B> Practice,do your homework,listen to your parents and don't make any babies til you grow up boy!
<Ingrid> Hey Victor..you are some cool dude
<Marco_Zawinul> :-)
<SteveS3001> lol.......thanks
<SteveS3001> A quick note -after seeing Stanley Clarke play at the IMAC in Huntington, NY, my dad and I loved him. Before the show, the guy announced that you and bunch of other dudes were going to play at the theater, so we're definitely going to check you out. I hear you are pretty equal with Stan in your genre of music and abilities!
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<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Go Stupid! (sorry again..) :-)
<Ingrid> :o)))
<Marco_Zawinul> wait only for the victor's answer stupid..
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8zoom you're the next..
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<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8 post your question stupid
<_victor_B> Well my favorite bassists growing up were stanley Jaco and alphonso johnson so just to see my name on the same page as theirs is an honor.Come check me out if i come to town.I rocks da house!p.s.what kind of guy calls himself stupid?I bet he's a genius!
<Marco_Zawinul> stupid?
<Marco_Zawinul> go ahead!
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<Ingrid> ahh..dichotomy..
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8 go zoom!
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8anil you're the next
<Marco_Zawinul> zoom?
<_victor_B> Now ingrid you ought to know better than using big words in a room full of bass players
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<Ingrid> naahh...if anyone knows, it would be bass players...
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<aprasad> A two part-question for you. Part one: I was wondering if you found it odd that Joe Z. found it necessary to introduce you at every Syndicate gig -- right through last year -- as the guy that replaced Jaco in Weather Report? What was the purpose? Part two: Given the fact you're unfairly constantly referred to as a Jaco successor (your styles being very different), why cover and modify "Continuum" on your last solo CD? Doe
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8theboz you're the next..
<Ingrid> bass players are used to keeping everyone on stage content
<Ingrid> Hello boz!!
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8 thomas you're the next.. (before theboz)
<ashplyr> sorry...i'll wait for my answer :-)
<Marco_Zawinul> Victor i have a question...
<Thomas> marco, not yet. one at a time
<Marco_Zawinul> eheh :)
<Ingrid> lolllllllllllllllllllllll
<_victor_B> Hey idb,if you write about Jaco do me a favor for a change,write about the great and good thngs the man gave us.So much of what's written about him makes him out to be this madman,which is not who i knew.He had sometrouble at the end but who he was was a special,great cat.Write about that OK?
<Marco_Zawinul> thomas, do you know what "ban" is? :-)
<Thomas> no
<Marco_Zawinul> eheh :)
<Ingrid> ..thanks you so much, Victor! <3
<aprasad> I've been told by several people who worked with Jaco that his biography should be filed in the fiction section...
<ldb> Sure Victor, I consider Jaco as a brother... I would never live without his music!!
<_victor_B> Consequently has nothing whatsoever to do with continuum.I can,t answer any questions regarding sony/WR.That's joe and waynes' dealing i'm not involved in the business side
<Thomas> i bet sony isn't involved too
<Ingrid> :o)
<Ingrid> actually..., :o(
<Thomas> the trading thing comes to mind :-)
<theboz> Victor i saw u+J.Z.Syndicate In Mantova Jazz Festival last year and i also took a picture with u (it's my pc desktop background image).I'm not a great expert of music, i just listen and love good music and you're part of it. Thanks for all you do!
<Marco_Zawinul> 8,4Please go with questions friends!
<Thomas> Mantova - gofd bless Andreas Hofer
<aprasad> Hey Ingrid -- There was a rumor buzzing that Milkowski was actively shopping a screenplay version of his Jaco bio to Hollywood folk. Is this true?
<_victor_B> These days big labels aren't releasing music because it's good.So if you talk about WR music,as great as it is,when they see Kenny G selling 50,000,000 (that's right fifty million) records the qulity of the music takes a baxkseat
<Ingrid> I don't know if it is true.....I have heard that buzz for about 5 years now....I would not be surprised.....
<aprasad> What's the family's take on the Milkowski book?
<ldb> To Victor: I'd like You to come to Italy for clinics, lessons...please Victor!!!
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Victor you told me that you're on next Zawinul album, can you give us some details?
<SteveS3001> hey guys, i'm back
<Ingrid> yes, the quality of the minds who make the choices..
<SteveS3001> having dinner for Father's Day
<_victor_B> If they do a Jaco movie,maybe I could play Victor Bailey!
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<Marco_Zawinul> eheh victor! :)
<SteveS3001> by the way, to all those fathers out there.....HAPPY FATHERS DAY
<Ingrid> Happy Fathers Day to all you dads
<theboz> great Victor
<Marco_Zawinul> thanks...
<theboz> thanks Ingrid
<Thomas> Victor Bailey actually signed my Heavy Weather lp as jaco Pastorius, great thing.
<Ingrid> lolll...but Victor, they might ask you to play Jaco...
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<aprasad> better than ben affleck!
<Ingrid> but then, who would play you?
<Ernesto> hi everybody!
<Thomas> bill cosby
<Marco_Zawinul> Felix! :)
<aprasad> bahhaaha!
<Ingrid> LOLLLL
<aprasad> victor needs to eat more pudding pops first.
<Thomas> hehehe
<Ingrid> Yesss... Felix as Victor!
<_victor_B> I love milkowski but he didn'tknow jaco.He was around him in the last most difficult part of his life so that's mostly what his book documents.I'd like to come to Italia for clinics too,but time is tight.Bill cosby,he's about 25 years older than me!
<Ingrid> Victory, did Bill quote you in the book?
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Victor you told me that you're on next Zawinul album, can you give us some details?
<SteveS3001> nice talking to you guys! i got to go....
<aprasad> zawa-who? :-)
<_victor_B> Felix gon' have to got some mo' sun then!
<Ingrid> bye Steve
<Thomas> who cares, special effects (hello mr. spielberg) will make him look even younger than you
<SteveS3001> so long ingrid
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<Ingrid> lollll..yes, but he got the lips
<_victor_B> I'll say nothing about the new zawinul,just wait......
<Thomas> hehehaha
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Hey that's my only question Victor, can you answer please? :-)
<Thomas> that was your question
<Thomas> next one please
<aprasad> Victor -- Do you think it's fair to say the Syndicate needs to shake up its live repertoire a bit?
<_victor_B> There's not much to tell you about joe's new record yet
<Ingrid> ohhh...and that says a lot!!!
<Marco_Zawinul> ok wrong question... :)
<Ingrid> Victor, did Bill quote you in the book?
<ldb> To Ingrid & Victor: sorry, but I've got to go....PRACTICE, tomorrow night I've got a gig  to play, and I don't know what to ply on "Autumn Leaves"!!!!!!!!!!! Bye Ingrid , by Victor
<_victor_B> Joe hasn't made a new studio record in six years so it's time for some new music,yes.Email joe and tell himthat
<Ingrid> Bye ldlb...
<_victor_B> On autmn leaves,play the bass (hahaha)
<ldb> Yes
<Thomas> ldb, don't forget girl from ipanema!
<zoom> Victor do you like Victor Wooten...?
<Ingrid> lollll
<ashplyr> Victor are *you* partial to any particular amps or cabinets lately?
<ldb> Bye guys, and.... hasta el Fender Jazz SIEMPRE!!!!!
<aprasad> I like Ikea.
<Thomas> Ikea ! damn
<Ingrid> ahhh...marabou!
<Thomas> chocolate
<Thomas> are they messing up the u.s. too?
<Thomas> can't believe it.
<Ingrid> I think so...
<aprasad> ikea is everywhere...
<Thomas> here too
<Ingrid> coming to Florida soon
<Thomas> i just have to turn left
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<Ingrid> Is Jeroen still not feeling well, Marco?
<ashplyr> Pat Metheny aint so fond of KennyG either...I LOATHE "soft jazz"!!! EeeeYuch!!!
<aprasad> At the risk of being Mr. Pain in the Ass: Ingrid, any update on Portrait of Jaco?
<Marco_Zawinul> Jeroen is good :)
<theboz> Victor i'm a great fan of Pino Daniele, you played in Medina. Any consideration to tell us. How was playing with Pino? Yr impression on his music
<Thomas> if you don't like the music - don't buy it. the kenny g thing is discussed to death already.
<Ingrid> nope..last update is that it will be released on Dec One
<Ingrid> any update now, would be a change...
<aprasad> Cool.
<_victor_B> Victor wootens' got a lot of incredible things happening on the bass.Still a little hung up in tricks and gimmicks for my taste but still a great bassist.I'm using EBS amps from sweden.The amps and cabs are great sounding.As lond as you play jazz you gotta love Ikea!When you go platinum then you can hate it!
<ashplyr> ...sorry ;-)
<jurcika14> Victor, have you ever played upright on certain gigs?
<ashplyr> sorry...;-)
<Ernesto> Sorry Ingrid is Felix your son?
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Victor i'm a great fan of Pino Daniele, you played in Medina. Any consideration to tell us. How was playing with Pino? Yr impression on his music
<Ingrid> yes, Ernesto
<_victor_B> Pino Danielle is a VERY soulful musician.I heard of him but never heard his music before I wirked with him.he has a lot a feeling in his music
<Ernesto> I can dig it baby!!!
<Ingrid> si
<aprasad> Victor -- Describe the chemistry between you and Paco Sery. That was a m*f* of a rhythm section. Still in touch with the guy?
<Ingrid> candombe
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8<aprasad> Victor -- Describe the chemistry between you and Paco Sery. That was a m*f* of a rhythm section. Still in touch with the guy?
<Ernesto> Did Felix played on I Can Dig it Baby... ?
<Ingrid> you mean with Hugo, yes?
<_victor_B> I played upright when I stared but i never played on gigs.I have one at home and I've been practiceing for a year.But I'm too skinny i can't carry that thing around
<Ingrid> In that case, yes
<Thomas> haha
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8<aprasad> Victor -- Describe the chemistry between you and Paco Sery. That was a m*f* of a rhythm section. Still in touch with the guy?
<Ernesto> yes with Hugo and all the rest.. Ive heard  an early version without him..
<aprasad> I think he saw it Marco. :-) I'm almost blind now.
<Marco_Zawinul> eheh anil :)
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<Ingrid> yes, before the mix probably..that is the one we heard
<Ernesto> I've heard they are doing the mixing .. the record must be almost ready cant wait
<aprasad> When's Felix gonna record?
<Ingrid> yes, me too..
<_victor_B> Paco is such a natural musician playing with him is a breeze.He just doesn't show up at the gig sometimes.There a vocal song on my new cd called "Where's Paco".It tells the whole story
<aprasad> Where's Paco??? Too funny man.
<Ingrid> Felix has been recording...just taking his time..
<theboz> Paco is not a drummer is a living drummachine
<aprasad> What sorta stuff is he doing?
<Thomas> there's a paco story on the z video too, had troubles with the passport...
<aprasad> mebbe you could call it "A-Paco-Lapse Now"
<aprasad> (sorry)
<Ingrid> with Bobby T he is doing mostly duets, trios... kinda eclectic... and rebelling the jazz police...
<Ernesto> I'm really pleased to meet you Ingrid, I'm the  guy who translated Candombe.com for Neil
<_victor_B> Don't rush felix.Let him grow up and develope a strong sense of self.Because of his history whenever he breaks out there's gonna be a whirlwind around him and the B.S. people will be the first ones in line.Let's let him grow up a bit first
<Ingrid> OHHH...HI Ernesto...great job!!
<aprasad> how old is felix?
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Victor, what is the best 1983-1986 Weather Report song in your opinion?
<Ernesto> And of course I'm a candombe head!!!
<Ingrid> I agree, Victor...can you tell him that?  At 19, with only me as a parent.. I do not impress him as much any more
<Ernesto> Is there anyone out there that knows what candombe is all about!
<_victor_B> Best song-D flat Waltz
<theboz> son are the same all over the world ingrid...
<ashplyr> Victor, Please Name some drummers you'd like to play w/ but have not had the opportunity with...
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Victor, i saw the version that is on the "Japan Domino Theory" video and it's terrific!!
<Marco_Zawinul> :-)
<Ingrid> candombe is overwhelming... kinda mesmerizing... especially in a large group
<aprasad> Victor, how do you feel about people trading live recordings (as long as it's not for money)?
<Ernesto> where have you heard it?
<Thomas> finally anil
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8<ashplyr> Victor, Please Name some drummers you'd like to play w/ but have not had the opportunity with...
<ashplyr> I'd like to hear you w/ JackDeJohnette!
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8<aprasad> Victor, how do you feel about people trading live recordings (as long as it's not for money)?
<aprasad> oi, i need to put on sunglasses.
<Ingrid> from a tape, done live at one of those Sunday events
<Marco_Zawinul> eheh anil!! :O)
<Thomas> marco, would you like to become my answering machine?
<Ingrid> lolllllllllll
<_victor_B> He's might be one of the best bassists in Florida already.it would be good if he could go to NYC sometimes just to remind him that even if he's great he's still 19 and there's a long way to go.That's what happened to me when I went to ny that young and it wass good for me
<aprasad> I get the feeling Felix is going to be pretty well-prepared for the horse and pony show when it begins...
<Ingrid> He goes to NY a lot.... but if he needs to take his time, then NY might not be a place to go That often..
<aprasad> err, dog and pony show that is.
<Ingrid> yes, thanks aprasad..sure is a goal
<_victor_B> Trading music is a tough question.It's still taking money out of our childrens mouths,but what can we do about it.
<Thomas> trading live shows?
<aprasad> But if the preponderance of people trading music are the same people that have bought every single iota of your released music, how does it take money away?
<zoom> Napster...?
<_victor_B> I'd love to plat with Jack D too he's awesome!
<aprasad> I'm not talking about piracy here -- but rather unreleased live recordings.
<Thomas> i'm trading and purchase every officially released album
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,11<aprasad> But if the preponderance of people trading music are the same people that have bought every single iota of your released music, how does it take money away?
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,11<aprasad> I'm not talking about piracy here -- but rather unreleased live recordings.
<aprasad> whoa. psychedelic.
<Marco_Zawinul> (cyan is better anil?)
<Marco_Zawinul> :-)
<Thomas> marco, try magenta
<Ingrid> hehehehe
* Marco_Zawinul slaps Thomas around a bit with a large trout
<aprasad> I know it's a big question....
<Ingrid> hahahahahahahaalollllll
<_victor_B> How did they get those live recordings?Bringing a recorder to my show?that's illegal!
<aprasad> God knows the Pastorius' estate has had to grapple with it.
<Ingrid> !!!!!!!
<aprasad> Commies!
<aprasad> (commies referring the taping infiltrators)
<ashplyr> God Bless you all & thanks for all the GREAT music...see you at the show! Peace OUT!
<Thomas> victor, or recording a show that's aired by a radio station
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,8Victor, what do you think about the Jason Miles' WR tribute?
<Ingrid> so true....so beyond that... they don't even want spend their energy grappling... though it is a constant jab at the heart....
<aprasad> woo. :-) there's a good one Marco. :-)
<Marco_Zawinul> thanks anil :)
<Ingrid> bye ashplyr
<_victor_B> That's illegal too but impossible to do anything about.I did it before i had a record deal so I CAN relate
<_victor_B> Jason Miles WR tribute is B.S.
<Thomas> hehehe
<Marco_Zawinul> B.S.?
<Ingrid> LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
<Marco_Zawinul> ahhhh!
<aprasad> I recently went to a gig by a *famous* percussion legend who was selling his own bootlegs of his own records the labels refuse to re-release.
<Thomas> bull shit
<Marco_Zawinul> understood :-)
<Marco_Zawinul> eheh your opinion is the same of the Joe's one!
<aprasad> Didn't Joe called it "The worst album in history?"
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<Marco_Zawinul> yes!
<Ingrid> wow aprasad... so sad , yet at the same time I think it is great
<Thomas> victor, did you expect that miles' album would be bull shit?
<Marco_Zawinul> 4,11<Thomas> victor, did you expect that miles' album would be bull shit?
<aprasad> Said legend's initials are A.M.
<_victor_B> A guy calls all of us to play on a session for him,then the recdord comes out and there's the name WR big on the front,with my name fson Miles name?irst at the top,and where's Ja
<aprasad> Man, expectations were so high for that WR tribute disc.... I can't believe what actually emerged.
<theboz> 5 aprasad "spit" the name...
<aprasad> It's not like it's a secret anyway, but it's Airto Moreira.
<Thomas> i purchased it on the first day it was out - a disaster
<aprasad> I just don't want him getting in trouble.
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